Scully that was great! Sorry you had such a hard time of it. I would tell elders to: Get a life! Mind their own business, get an education (in some cases high school would have helped!), I wanna know if some of them have ever had an orgasm 'cause in some cases I can't even imagine, they're so stiff and stuffy. I would ask do they really believe some of the Bull Sh#@ they say from the platform? Do they ever feel sad for hurting people? Judging people? and cutting people off from their families? God appointed them to do that? I don't think so. - Victorian Sky
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If You Had Freeness of Speech, What Would You Like To Tell The Elders?
by minimus in.
when elders question you to see if everything's alright, what would you really like to tell them, if you could??
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Has anyone given up love for the organization?
by Victorian sky inhi all, just wondering how many have given up the man or woman they love for the borg?
i know it's a painful subject for some.
i gave up my first love when i was studying.
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Victorian sky
I empathize with all of you, especially Gadget! Sorry about your girlfriend, I can't believe she would prefer if you cheated, how warped is that? I know exactly what those elders are telling her. That she's sooo faithful and that she's sacrificing for Jehovah and that God will provide her with a mate, just pioneer! Just study, meetings, service! Unbelievable. I'm so sorry you've been hurt. Trust me, she'll regret it and by the time she does, you'll be married to someone who loves you unconditionally. - Victorian Sky
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Stupidest thing a JW ever told you
by Nosferatu inwhat is the stupidest thing a jw ever told you?
we all know that they say a lot of stupid things, but what really topped the cake?.
for me, it was an elder telling me i was progressing really well when my meeting attendance was down and my field service hours were slipping.
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Victorian sky
I've got a few. A sister was being beaten by her husband who was in 'good standing' the elders and the congregation were divided over it. Half thought she should be longsuffering and let him continue beating the hell out of her and the other half were like 'leave his sorry ass'. Well I was of the later camp and out in service one day a group of sisters and I got into an argument over the case. I said 'He's put her in the hospital how many times now? Her life is in danger, Jehovah would understand if she left" This pompous pioneer said 'She took a vow and she must stick to her husband, even if he kills her she'll be resurrected for her faithfulness!" Can you imagine? Another dumb thing was when I was doing the fade a sister said to me "Even if you commit murder, don't miss the meetings!" Say what! While I was in college an elder with a high school diploma called all college grads 'Educated idiots' from the platform. Nice, real nice. The top of my dumb list was a sister who told me that I shouldn't be sad about the people who died on 9/11 because now they'll make it into the new system when they're resurrected!' How sick are these people? - Victorian Sky
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Has anyone given up love for the organization?
by Victorian sky inhi all, just wondering how many have given up the man or woman they love for the borg?
i know it's a painful subject for some.
i gave up my first love when i was studying.
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Odrade, you went through hell! But I'm so happy for you now. Amazing your parents tried to break up your relationship before your wedding, what did they want you to be? Lonely and bitter like so many single sisters? Glad you took a stand against the maddness. - V Sky
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Has anyone given up love for the organization?
by Victorian sky inhi all, just wondering how many have given up the man or woman they love for the borg?
i know it's a painful subject for some.
i gave up my first love when i was studying.
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Wow Neon, that's amazing! So glad you two found each other again. My first love is happily married so ah well but it was great to hear of at least one happy ending! - Victorian Sky
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Has anyone given up love for the organization?
by Victorian sky inhi all, just wondering how many have given up the man or woman they love for the borg?
i know it's a painful subject for some.
i gave up my first love when i was studying.
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Victorian sky
Hi all, just wondering how many have given up the man or woman they love for the borg? I know it's a painful subject for some. I gave up my first love when I was studying. Was told I couldn't get bapitzed unless I did and we weren't even sleeping together! I was a teenager at the time, so who's to say it would have worked out anyway but I do regret hurting him over religious differences. I was told by my study conductor that loyalty to Jehovah meant I had to cut off all ties with him. We were unevenly yoked and marry only in the lord and so forth. I was told by an elder to throw away any evidence of the relationship! I was young so I did. Including his pictures and love letters. Then I was praised for months from the platform for my obedience and faithfulness even though I had a broken heart at the time. I've since gotten over it but I was wondering how many did the same thing and how do you feel about your decision today?
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JW and Christianity..
by cutenconfuzed422 inhey, i'm new to this site, but i'm looking for the big differences between christianity and jehovah's witnesses.
i would like any information you have, and references to it if you have references.
thanks a lot.
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Victorian sky
Dear Meg,
The Governing Body (small group of men at the Brooklyn Headquarters) make the dotrinal changes that affect the lives of millions of Witnesses. Gamaliel explained the differences between JW's and Christianity very well. JW's do believe that Jesus is really Michael, the Archangel, and that Jesus is the son of God but not God himself. The dotrine changes are too many to list here, but the ones that have put lives at risk are the reversal on organ transplants, vaccinations and the present blood transfusion ban. Also a dotrinal policy that endangers family ties is the disfellowshipping arrangment which is shunning the JW who leaves the organization - many lose their entire family and the only friends they've ever known - cruel and terrible. It happened to my mom and I was pressured not to talk to her, can you imagine? JW's can't vote, serve in the military, have sex before marriage and even after marriage can only have it in certain positions (I kid you not) no holidays including birthdays. Must attend 5 meetings a week, go out in the preaching work and report the hours you spend each month, the list of rules goes on and on. For me, christianity brought freedom. - Victorian Sky
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Do you miss the Kingdom Melodies?
by Candlestick02 injust curious.
i went to the 3rd church that i've ever stepped foot into after leaving the borg 3 years ago.
so, as i'm standing there (in the front row, i might add) for the musical worship portion of the service.. i felt like a big idiot.
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Dear Candlestick, I can totally relate! I went to church for the first time last Sunday. There was a band with drums, guitars, piano and a choir. It was fascinating to listen to them. First of all, they could actually sing unlike myself and many dubs who mumbled through the songs. I too enjoyed the church service I went to but I couldn't help but compare it to the borg which is all I've ever known. I was pleasantly surprised at how warm and welcoming the people were and the atmosphere was light & free, no pressure, no rules. As for the kingdom melodies, yeah, I must admit, I find myself humming them every once in a while. I had a few memorized so the words come back easily. I loved "Kiss the Son" especially the bit about "Jehovah's sword and Gideons". Also "Walking in Integrity". When I was active, I remember saying to my friend, 'I wish we were one of those jumping churches' because I love the sound of choirs, not the gospel screamers but the choirs in harmony. The singing in the KH sounded so depressing at times, like none of us were truly alive. - Victorian Sky
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Are JW more depresed?
by heianderen inas many of you know there are some studies that indicade thath jw have an above-average mental illness incidence.
i know a jw doctor that , ironicaly, has confirmed this claim to me.. greets,.
heianderen
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Hec yes, I knew several Bethal wives who popped Prozac like candy. It's tough for women in the borg, especially. All you can hope to do is get married, pioneer and have babies - sad really. I was depressed on and off for years but I didn't know it. I just thought I was getting spiritually weak and I needed to do more, more and more. The good ol' dub treadmill of meetings, study and service. I'm happier now than I've ever been, gee I wonder why? - Victorian Sky
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How many of you had the jw double life?
by obiwan ini was the prime example, if you looked in the dictionary under double life, my face would be right next to it!
i would party on saturday night, and drag my butt to the sunday meeting hungover.
does anyone here know how hard it is to answer a question during the wt study hungover?
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I was a goodie, nerdy JW a very harsh judge of myself and others so my teens/early 20s was the dub life 24/7. Years of repressing every natural desire. The only thing I did that I felt really guilty about at the time was seeing rated R movies in the theatre while pioneering. I was always looking over my shoulder, worried about who would see me. It wasn't until I started facing my doubts that I started to have fun! No home runs but I went to 2nd or 3rd base with a couple of 'brothers' while still active and that was a blast! - Victorian Sky